I have a 2012 Honda Crosstour and each time I have had it to the shop for a oil change I told the service manager that after I have come to a complete stop then go thru a intersection I have a hesitation was told by the service manager that it was due from slowing down then speeding up??? There were no diagnostic codes and they couldnt get the car to repeat what my wife experienced, so nothing done. Every 4-6 weeks i have to pull the fouled plug in Cyl 1 and replace it. I bought my 2010 new and have been the only owner and I need to opt in to this settlement and have my car fixed. This time the tech said I needed the pistons replaced and that the damaged pistons had also damaged the cylinders so they needed to be repaired (not replaced), and that I needed new spark plugs. But I think we should start another class action lawsuit against Honda, because Ill be damned if Im going to pay $4000 for a ring job and another $300 for a computer upgrade. Dated 1-20-2015. Around 15 mph coasting, engine disconnects from accelerator and no acceleration nor increased rpm. Now, we had to replace the catalytic converter. Please object, complain or otherwise make this crappy settlement more noticeable. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Repaired under warranty less than 1 year ago. At this point I have nothing to lose so I might as well try it. They get paid from Honda so why do they try and not let it meet the criteria??? I agree on another law suit! Oil leaks on exhaust make car smell horrible. A second wave of checks will go out this Fall, according to the Settlement Administrator. A recall is a recall lets file another suite. I now have 63,000 miles on my beautiful van and yesterday the engine light came on and it started bucking like a raging bull. Since that time (Aug '15) I havent had any problems. It was starting to make sense to me then. We spent thousands in maintenance with the dealer and NO ONE mentioned this. I dont really feel tight trying to sell car outright know the potential of whats about to go wrong . It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Honda not willing to do the same for a known issue in a 2014 version. I bought a 2012 Odyssey in 2012 and did not know about this problem. There is a safety feature that shuts down the engine if you barely depress the brake pedal, which I was unknowingly doing with my left foot sometimes. Honda extends Accord, CR-V warranty over fouled piston rings | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews I think previously this was only 7 years / 160,000kms. I have not received the settlement notice. Here is some information from the Honda bulletin; American Honda is announcing a powertrain warranty extension as a result of a settlement of a class captioned, Soto etal V American Honda Motor Co., Inc., Case No. I bought the car in 2010 with 43k miles on it. My 2012 Honda Accord is having these same issues. They then agreed to clean the heads and install a new software program after the Oil Consumption Test. I wasnt going for that crap, especially when I overheard the service manager talking about this defect two years ago. 1-888-888-3082, Steven N. Berk So, as long as I keep the van I will have to replace every year? I notice a after a thousand miles after a oil change it burnt a QT of oil and the gas mileage went from 25 mpg to 20 mpg. Not that I get them all done that fast but I must have had a second coffee that day. But they only chose to do the repair that way because it guaranteed them that dealers would be rid of unhappy customers after exactly one visit and not because it was mechanically necessary. This can set the dtcs p0301 to p0304 and trigger the mil to start. We pay way too much for nice cars for them to have so many problems! TheVCMuzzler II is a simple device that can be installed and removed in minutes without cutting into the OEM harness at all. I bought a 2007 Honda Fit; I have had to change the spark plugs so many times Ive lost count. As, 3rd Gen: 3rd owner - 2007 maroon EX 240,000m (will trade for RA3!). They advised it was from the oil getting into the combustion chamber just like the V6s. I did some computer research and took the car to another mechanic and they fixed the problem for $1100 dollars. I was told by the service tech that the cylinder head valve problem was caused by the the faulty piston rings and that it had also damaged the spark plugs. A car's piston rings regulate engine oil consumption and oil pressure. now at 118,000 we got the 2nd p0303 code. odyclub.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I have noticed that my van doesn't seem to accelerate well. Same here they fixed piston rings in 2019 and now (March 2022) same problem. The rings are known to rotate and align in a manner that degrades spark plugs and causes engine mIS Fires. They will replace the short block if you can prove that your car is burning more than a qt of oil in 1000 miles. I have brought it in twice for it burning oil, and they have overfilled it so it looks like it is not low when I check it again. Also am i going to get a rental to get me back and forth to work? This problem is not limited to the V6. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. Vehicle was hesitating to accelerate, would actually slow down when the accelerator was pressed, the emissions light was flashing the entire time. At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. 2011 Honda Pilot misfiring. I had a friend of mine hook up his personal scanner and found out cylinder 5 was misfiring. Honda is now below Kia in my book. Bought 09 accord 2 years ago. I didn't see a lot about VCMTuner II so I thought I'd start a new thread. Although this issue is related VCM, this was not included in the settlement :-(. Yesterday, with my wife down in Florida, Cylinder 1 misfired (P301 code). I was told its about a week but a week ago I was told its a week too. I thought that was fishy and really thought it when they told me that I had to have a total of 4 now (they would take an average). I love my car its everything I ever wanted and now it needs another 5,000 for repairs. I purchased my 2011 Honda Pilot in Feb.2019 and was not aware of this issue after i have taken my car in for $2000 worth of work that was done, May 2019 before the warranty ran out Aug.2019 . Oil is not cheap these days. This is a brand new DNJ Piston Ring Set Oversize .020 in. Honda corporate is basically getting away with their Lemons, while we the customer are stuck. . I bought my 2013 odyssey like 7 months ago and already have misfire in cylinder 2 and 6 last week. Without any confidence on the outcome asking customers to fork is insane. Just had car towed with shaking and engine light flashing. I purchased it in 2018. I just want to ensure that if i donothing, that a warranty extension will automatically be in force, protecting my vehicle for a period of time. They will tell you that you need a timing belt. I have been looking online to find anything about only cylinders 1-4 being covered but havent came across anything. Honda is extremely unsafe! Its time now that other Honda owners who have the same issues as others here, Get together another class action suit against Honda. I called them the next day and they said parts (rings) are on back order and I wont get my car back for about a week. 2012 Honda Pilot 50K check engine light eventually led to misfire and repair under class action lawsuit. However in the past 18 months it has been burning about 2.5 to 3 quarts of oil about every 5,000 miles when I change the oil and filter. Free ring replacement 1-3 or 1-4. This is the 3rd time in a month and a half Ive had a misfire in cylinder 3. Thanks! TERRELL MARSHALL DAUDT & WILLIE PLLC, Michael F. Ram Obviously, the issue continued into 2014 and should also be covered. The dealership should be able to give an approximate forecast how long it should take though. Although piston rings are some of the least expensive parts of a car engine, they are essential to the effective operation of the vehicle. I have a 2011 pilot . Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov I have been a loyal Honda owner but will never buy another as they have not backed up their product or admitted there is a problem. I finished driving home (about 7 miles) and had it towed to the dealer. Been dealing with this and tired of throwing money in this car. UPDATE: A federal judge granted final approval to the Honda engine misfire class action settlement at the Final Fairness Hearing. Oil consumption readings show its burning a half of a quart per 1,000 miles which is within industry standard. This is a huge inconvenience for me. I would never recommend anyone to ever purchase or own any Honda vehicle!! Like are they really not going to pay to fix it even though there is a WHOLE lawsuit about it, and my car has every single symptom stated in the lawsuit?? I still have the extended powertrain warranty up to 100.000 miles. Cal.). Why do I have to put out $500 on HONDAs mistake?? Honda has denied the allegations in the class action lawsuit. Loyal Honda customer for over 20 years. I have a Honda Accord 2008 and my engine light began to blink and then the VSP light came on. I purchased this Model and in Less than 5 months every single problem online HAS actually happened. Just got the coil fixed, $85 tow, $129 diagnostic, and $150 to swap out the spark plug. Can anyone give me any advice? This affects 2008-2011 Hondas and includes an extended 8 year or 125,000 warranty to cover the costs of replacement. They also diagnosed the car with misfires due to fouled spark plugs. Thanks. Eugene Tompkins. Top Class Actions is a legal news source Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. that means one more year of additional coverage. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. I might ask how much are they charging you for all of this? I still have all the same issues. The dealership set me up with a rental car on 11/26/13 when the excessive oil burn was found. Hondas service has been great until now. Use your VIN or plate to find out. Heres an idea: You might argue that since they havent provided you an accurate forecast for the garage time needed to effect the repair, Honda should provide you a loaner car in the meantime. I have a 2008 Honda Accord V-6 EXL. I have a 2009 Honda Accord with 99,000 miles now. I have a 2012 Honda Crosstour and is experiencing flashing engine light, hesitate to drive, some shaking if I drive more than 40 miles. Find your nearest Honda dealer. I agree! Please object to the settlement as it is feel-good wording. Always change my oil early with oil filter. BERK LAW PLLC, Beth E. Terrell Im wondering, how many vehicles have had this misfire problem? does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. A sad loss, even sadder Honda was no help!!! American honda is extending the powertrain warranty to cover repairs related to engine failure (which causes dtcs p0301 to p0304) to 8 years of unrestricted mileage from the original date of purchase and has resolved a class case on the basis of this remedial measure. Even though I purchased an extended warranty for the car, which my cars milage is well within, I had to pay $42.71 out of pocket for the oil change to begin the oil consumption readings. Had the motor replaced as a result of the piston ring issue/failure in 2021. I definitely plan to have a muzzler installed, even if I have the dealer ring job done. (133000k miles) on this vehicle, does the timing. Honda offering to extend warranty on the piston ring update repair for I4s to 8 years / 125,000 Miles. I know its been a few months since you posted this but thought I would answer in the event that this could help you or others. 2010 honda odyssey just had my light come on today and the code is p0303 this is ridiculous Ive already replaced the spark plugs just last year and Ive only owned my car for 5 years. Check Honda service bulletin 13-081 for vehicles 2011-2013. My car does shudder a bit between 20 and 50 mph when it deactivates some of the cylinders. Same thing is basically happening with my 2012. The vehicle burns a quart of oil every 1000 miles. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. . I am scheduled to return to follow up with the dealership. I have not fully repaired yet. So my issues: 1. Sadly, I know almost nothing about cars. A cam lobe along with a rocker arm had pitting. What can be done now? So think of a big mushroom being pulled to and fro in a drinking glass. After that, I guess Im on my own. Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls: I am done with Honda. Service tech said oh, yeah that is an issue with that model. I am having the same problem with my 2011 Honda Pilot. I was not offered to a ring job to repair my car, which is what I believe the car needs to stop the excessive oil burning, but the spark plugs were changed. Code P0301. Isnt Honda and their dealers required to DISCLOSE/ADVISE/MAKE PUBLIC to buyers of vehicles they sell or have for sale that are with in the parameters of the vehicles with the flaws included in a class action law suit?? I would like to know if the dealer would do any preventive maintenance on my car to avoid this problem?Or do I have to wait for codes to come up,I will ask on my next service I will check my oil more often to see if I am burning oil?This really stinks to wait for these codes to eventually appear ,I hope I am still under that extended warranty when the appear! The best shops that Ive ever worked in were ones that had a 2 week backlog. I bought 2009 Honda Odyssey new and now have problems with engine number 4 and 5 misfired. to claim cash from in our EVERY SINGLE CAR OWNER OF THESE VEHICLES SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE SETTLEMENT!! We just found out about buyers previous experiences and it makes my blood boil to think they are getting away with deceiving the public regarding this vehicle and its problems. Now now accelerator is getting worse in losing connection with the engine. Hi. The total was $3200 after negotiating to lower the cost. Hopefully I can get it adequately repaired by Honda now with the backing of the warranty extention settlement. Cal.). 2013-01-18. We see that there was the recall for the piston rings and updating the pcm but my van no longer falls under this warranty. yes? What Im wondering is whether the initial repair likely fixed the problem, or whether the problem is likely to crop up again. The piston rings on certain cylinders may rotate and align which can lead to spark plug fouling. I said hell no ,you pay all repairs.This was not my doing. I have a 2010 Accord V-6 and have been having the cylinder misfire problem as well. Is there a way that I can be covered under this same class action suit? I have a 2011 Honda Pilot they unfortunately had the piston rings issue that was common for the model. Why is it not illegal for a Honda Dealership to sell you a Honda Pilot 2011 if the engine misfire and piston ring/ foul sparkplug and oil burning problem is inevitable for all? My pilot is now the third car which is now the dog and winter car. I have a 2010 Pilot. . Nothing more nothing less. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. Very curious!! We did incurred expenses for towing and twice for car rentals. All I can say is that my car was in the shop for about 5 weeks. Now, left ball joint is bad. What a tiny recall window! I also talked to the Acura Dealer service manager who politely smiled and said it would be $169 for 1 hr assessment and then $369 for a leak down test and then he could recommend an action. The dealership has fixed for free under recall both times so far. The Honda engine misfire settlement will resolve a class action lawsuit ( Soto, et al. Sad situation. A second wave of checks will go out this Fall, according to the Settlement Administrator. Here I am almost exactly 3 years and 50,000 miles later and the problem is back. A 'cylinder" is shaped like a drinking glass, right. Before I could have the work performed, I noticed a loud noise coming from the engine so I added that to the list to be investigated. 2008 Accord E-XL 100K miles. They were not forthcoming nor transparent with the litigation and existing issues, I discovered it on my own after much research and confronting them. Then yesterday I saw the new generation on the road. The suit is news to me (although Honda says they forwarded a notice of class action a while ago). Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. I had my oil changed and 4 weeks later my car did not register any oil on the oil dip stick so this is effecting more then the V6 Honda Accords because mine is a 4 cylinder. At first we got error code P0301, cylinder one misfire, car running rough engine hesitating. Its good though that Honda is stepping up and not charging your for it, so consider that a big boost to your wallet anyway. I only recently learned about the issues with VCM reading threads on OdyClub, and even though my '07 Touring with 130K miles doesn't have symptoms (high oil consumption, fouled plugs, etc.) This is an engineering design flaw, plain and simple class action suit was an easy way out for Honda. Under an extended powertrain warranty progRam, Honda has agreed to replace spark plugs and clean affected piston rings to correct an engineering fault. I have a 2009 accord and this just started happening a few months ago!!! I have a 2016 with the same problem. What can I do? 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