People from outside can conflate Sydneys north shore with the northern beaches. Souths: 390,000. In 1964, the club moved to new premises, its current location, in Abbott Street, Cammeray. Who are these people? The North Sydney Bears believe their vast fan following and 113 years of history make them the ideal fit for an 18th team should the NRL explore further expansion. As Nick Politis said in the piece in The Tele Bears fans didnt go to Manly and they didnt cross the bridge and come to the Roosters. After Norths were booted out of the bad marriage, mates of mine havent been to a league game since. Only Parramatta (890,000) and Wests Tigers (690,000) have a larger catchment than the Bears would have. Home Delivery is not available in all areas. When Souths were kicked out, mates of mine followed Randwick. Northern Eagles: as if a dog and a cat got married. The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. Due to having a debt of around $4 million, the North Sydney club was not considered under the NRL's inclusion criteria. Singleton then spoke about the Gold Coast Titans and how their bid beat Singleton's initial bid for a Central Coast team in 2006 saying They had no money and no stadium, and we did have a stadium built for North Sydney. There are a million reasons why. See: The Northern Eagles. [35], North Sydney would go on to lose both finals matches against South Sydney and Newtown. The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. Once again they were eliminated from the finals after losing both their matches in consecutive weeks,. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. cost) every 4 weeks unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. They are headed up by Perry Lopez and Greg Florimo and has the corporate backing of a number of local Central Coast and some North Shore businesses. Two Classics, back in stock! "Never going to happen. And was a year late, thats all. For those who wish to see the Bears return to the top grade, it is hard to conceive of a comment more inviting. Commercial viability. It was a wet, Autumnal day in May 1994. For two wilderness-riven decades, Bears hopefuls have been scoffed at, cast as hopeless, foolish tragics, and blind to the realities of economic rationalism in the 21st century. Former North Sydney player and the club's leading record point scorer Jason Taylor was named as new head coach. Supporters of grass roots Rugby League. In the fifty years the new building has stood, a number of redesigns and refurbishments have taken place. [3], North Sydney was formed as a foundation club of the newly arrived rugby league game in 1908 and were initially known as the Shoremen. The club was formed during the rationalisation process of the NRL by the merger of the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles and the North Sydney Bears in 2000. As would electric Dog-Eels. And relocating an entity, be they Bears, Dragons, Sharks, Tigers, Roosters, whoever, well, knowing fans as I do, and being one of them, youd just as soon they kill your team as see it move away. Hyde, who was living in Lane Cove at the time, had been forced to switch from Balmain to Norths in 1941 due to the league's residency rules which stated that a player was required to live in their club's district. Everyones sold a pup, a homeless hound that nobody owns. Payment will be charged to your Google Account. And if there were Bears people would invest in the Bears, consume the Bears, love the Bears. Missed out. Bears Banter; Bears TV; Teams & Draws. NRL support. with other sports fans, Please enter your credit or debit card details below. . That's lotta eyeballs. North Sydney Bears. Steve Menzies played the most games for the club, with 69 caps.[3]. With the score 12-8 in favour of Newcastle with less than 10 minutes to play Jason Taylor set up Michael Buettner for a try which made the score 12-12. They would allocate between four and six games at a potentially upgraded North Sydney Oval. Still dont understand what idiot thought putting arch enemies together would work. Hes presented Powerpoint shows to many suits detailing the findings of his years of study into Sydney peoples sports-consuming habits. Victory may be close, but the Bears do know how to make it hard. In 2009, North Sydney lost to Balmain Tigers in extra time to miss out on the Grand Final 1918. Our club is a 1908 foundation club,". At the end of the 2019 Canterbury Cup NSW regular season, Norths finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. And have a massive march in March. Big question would be do you brand the new merged club as one, both or neither of the two co-owners? Home delivery is not available in all areas. In the 2016 NSW Cup North Sydney finished the season in 10th place and therefore missed the finals. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. Norths then had to wait 10 years to make the finals again, this time against Balmain where they lost 11-9. For mine, sports fans, that is freakin La La Land. Season 2015 saw a strong improvement as Norths won nine games throughout the season and returned to the NSW Cup finals, only to be eliminated by Canterbury in Week One, and finished eighth. The foundation club exited the league in 1999, before their failed merger with Manly ended in 2003. [41][42], Bears fan Alan McLoughlin, a Central Coast resident, set up a Facebook petition to bring the Bears to Gosford. Penrith (590,000) is about the same. The Dolphins losing the Redcliffe bit is madness. The record attendance for the club was 20,059 for the club's opening game against the Newcastle Knights at Grahame Park on 6 February 2000. Monday to Friday 7:30am 6:00pm, Saturday & Sunday 7:00am 11:30am (AEST), App or digital edition only customer? Youre getting the best of both. The partnership folded in 2002, with Manly emerging as the stand-alone entity. New South Wales representative Queenslander, Bruce Walker, captained the Bears in the final of the 1976 Amco Cup. You must provide an email address to create a Roar account, When using Facebook to create or log in to an account, you need to grant The Roar permission to see your email address, By joining The Roar you agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms & Conditions. But Jeez that's two million eyeballs. However, poor on-field performances and factional fighting led to the collapse of the Northern Eagles in 2002, after only three years. Seriously, brad Fittler and matty johns are past the point of no return. During that time, North Sydney produced arguably the greatest winger the game has ever seen in Ken Irvine. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. The North Sydney Bears are reportedly attempting to organise a consortium that will make a bid to purchase the NRL license off the Manly Sea Eagles. Norths & Easts. two very financially strong leagues clubs together. Exhibit A: The Northern Eagles. The Great Dane Sep 3, 2018 Prev 1 2 3 4 Next flippikat Bench Messages 3,489 Sep 18, 2018 #21 Hello said: I dont know why they would need to play any games in Brooky or NSO. The northern beaches. Bulletin Latest Headlines direct to your inbox, LeagueUnlimited | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer. But Jeez thats two million eyeballs. Johns originally floated the plan in early August, https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/bb/news-story/6fc9fb8d6f197168e25759294c1e8e1d, https://www.sportsradio.com.au/north-sydney-bears-ceo-open-to-new-merger-with-manly/, 2023 R1 Thu - Parramatta v Melbourne @ CommBank, I Dont' Like Cricket, Oh No, I Love it, Yeah. A valid active email address and Australian mobile phone number are required for account set up. Please call 1800 070 535. [63] The Bears intend to retain their 113-year history and traditional black and red colours. The Bears have also been the only team to have participated in every season of reserve grade since the competition's inception in 1908. Johns went on to say "I think its a must, We keep talking about Perth, but its so far away I imagine the costs would be astronomical getting everyone over there and back. Now that youve found Todays Tale why not join in on With the scores locked at 12-12, Newcastle player Matthew Johns kicked a field goal with 2 minutes to play to make it 13-12. A valid active email address and Australian mobile phone number are required for account set up. Rugby league historian Andrew Moore once suggested that the Northern Eagles joint venture may well have established a record for being the least loved football club in sporting history. New customers only. On a fine and sunny afternoon at dear little Brookie, against the Eels, say, thered be what - 15,000 fans? And it was bye-bye Bears to purgatory. Est 1908. [2] Until the end of season 2009, Souths were coached by the Bears' record-breaking top points scorer, Jason Taylor. There are plans to again be part of the NRL in coming years as the Central Coast Bears. He was introducing me to the dry, gallows humour that accompanied any seasoned observer of the Bears. Bulletin Latest Headlines direct to your inbox, LeagueUnlimited | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer. Please check your email to receive the magic link. Rejection didnt get in their way, beginning a new mission to return to the top flight by holding talks with a Western Australian consortium to launch a club almost 4000km across the country. Owned by both clubs and with equal represteantion on the board. North Sydney chose to join the temporary Presidents Cup competition which involved teams from country New South Wales and the Ron Massey Cup. South Sydney who have a partnership with Norths were not happy with this decision and declared that there would be no NRL pathway for Carney and declared that they might withdraw their relationship with Norths as a result. The Official North Sydney Bears. Going with the Flo. Now he reveals his thoughts on a proposed Western Australia-Bears joint venture, writes Phil Rothfield. In 2016, it was reported that there were moves for the Bears to buy the Gold Coast Titans franchise. If the sea eagles fall over, better to use the chance to reduce the number of Sydney clubs and just task an existing club with the task of representing the North. And lo did journos On The Pulse and encrypted WhatsApp chats spread the love about the arcane and business-like practices the Commission was mooting to shift a Sydney club out of town, to ensure viability and profitability, to uphold the greater good, or whatever reason they might use to shift a team in a Ken-Cowley-taking-Super-League-to-the-massive-untapped-markets-of-New-York-Johannesburg-and-Hong-Kong kind of way. Not only would it be good I think its a must for the NRL to look at and this is the time, the time is right now.. Same-same. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. North Sydney is based on Sydney's Lower North Shore, and has played at North Sydney Oval since 1910. Norths also amalgamated with the Seagulls, a border club at Tweed Heads on the far north coast of New South Wales, the oldest provincial rugby league club in Australia. If Brookie is not up to NRL standard, why does the NRL allow them to play there? L.U. Anywhere from the Harbour Bridge - take in the Central Coast - that would be such a powerful area and if they could come to some sense you could encapsulate Brookvale Oval, North Sydney Oval and Gosford and have a wonderful, strong club.. Bring Back The Who? The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). Like the other Sydney district clubs, Norths were largely born from players and officials from the local Rugby Union club, Northern Suburbs Rugby Club. Some fans will tell you the Bears are a relic of the past. The Bears bid committee is lobbying the NRL for inclusion as the next expansion team. If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. The North Sydney Bears would be back and there would be, give us your best Rabbits Warren, deadset jubilation. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. For full details, see our Terms and Conditions www.dailytelegraph.com.au/connectedterms. You are using an out of date browser. Carney's blocked move coincided with the departure of Souths contracted player Robbie Farah who spent the first 12 weeks playing for North Sydney. But how can you blame Manly for doing the right thing by Manly? The joint venture club played out of Brookvale Oval and Central Coast Stadium at Gosford, a ground successfully lobbied and built for the Bears. People from outside can conflate Sydney's north shore with the northern beaches. Manly has 270,000. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. But only like the two Koreas. Renewals occur unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. [5] when an injury riddled North Sydney were beaten by Newtown 347. Speaking . [12], On 14 July 1994, the club was fined $87,000 for breaching the salary cap. cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $24 every 4 weeks. Please check your email to receive the magic link. Madness, of course. the North Shore Nightmare and play in a dark . We just want to make sure that geographically we feel we are the team of the people, and we can take that to the people where the game needs to go. Whether wise brinkmanship, 4D chess, or just playing hard to get, it is fair to say that Dickson thinks in the abstract about location, and is keeping his options open. A reconvened AFL presidents' meeting endorses the AFL commission's recommendation of a Brisbane Bears-Fitzroy merger. It also explains how you can access or seek correction of your personal information, how you can complain about a breach of the Australian Privacy Principles and how we will deal with a complaint of that nature. [13] That year they came within one match of the grand final but lost to Canberra. But they never won that premiership, they strategically blundered with Super League, and they fizzled into insolvency, enduring the humiliation of what former president David Hill described as the sacrilegious merger with Manly before the expulsion of the Bears by the Forces of Darkness. [25], In the 2017 season, Norths finished 6th on the ladder and qualified for the finals. They love that place. [19], By the start of the 1999 NRL season the future looked bright with plans for the move north well underway, but one unfortunate and apparently non-negotiable outcome of the Super League war's peace deal was a criterion designed to reduce the number of teams in the NRL to fourteen. Subscription automatically renews at least 24 hours before the end of the current billing period. You must log in or register to reply here. I agree with you but the roosters wont be going anywhere now they are champions. How long does it take for my home delivery to start? Perry suggested that the NRL should look at creating a promotion/relegation system similar to other sports around the world. Before this, Norths were the feeder team for South Sydney from 2007 to 2018. [17][18], In 1998, Norths finished 5th on the table and qualified for the finals. Hard-nosed? And watch the people stream across Miller Street and into Bear Park, and fill it full to burst, and chant like Souths fans did. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. Like Illawarra got the socks in their merge and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in the merge. Theres still people holding a candle for the Newtown Jets, though not enough that the Jets arent destined to forever be a reserve grade feeder out of Henson Park. These are the ties that bind. Perry went on to say "You need 12 and 12, so 24 key markets, and stricter criteria about those clubs around their funding model which means all of the 24 may not fit the top tier criteria, it may only be 16-18 franchises that make the cut, their catchment areas, their population, and their commercial growth, because currently I believe a lot of clubs havent been accountable as much as they should have. The merged club lasted only until 2002 when it split again, with the Bears not returning to first grade and being represented in the NSWRL competition, the second-tier rugby league competition, where the Bears continue to play today. Missed out. Gee lock up him up it already happened and didn't work, I could be wrong but Im sure if seen a merged club, possibly the Northern Eagles that went well. 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