He said he didnt hurt Shannan just as much, Ive read all the transcripts. Wanting to know why is simply that wanting to know why. However, this method is especially brutal, sadistic, and intimate, as he he would see their dying eyes. She was relatively YOUNG. If you look at the autopsy report she has purple round spots on 1 side of her face from the chin to the temple which could be his knuckles from a punch as well as a 1 handed strangulation. He kills both witnesses and the rest is history. Please God Forgive me for everything.. My closets and nightstand is much cleaner than hers and I dont have OCD. yes, that is great, there is no mention at all that there was any of the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge that was in Bellas stomach, thankyou for pointing that out Nick. There was a largely decomposed fetus expelled from the uterus. Parents reach for any hope, even if the child is blue, even if rigor has set in, theyre desperate and people who are not emotionally involved as them, professionals,have to tell them its too late. I consider it strange to have them there (in preschool) FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO.. A person with OCD also wouldnt have that much stuff on the bathroom vanity. He dug the grave with a shovel. October 3, 2018 / 12:35 PM / CBS Colorado. Im having my doubts about an emotional conversation occurring that particular morning prior to Chriss killing Shanann. On Aug. 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann, 34, in their Colorado home. When you are larger or they are tender, especially when pregnant, it is easier to sleep in them. Shanann was wrapped in a sheet. Autopsy reports for Bella and Celeste say that the necks of the children were swabbed even though they were in a container of oil, water, and associated sludge matter. A history of this procedure could easily go unnoticed during an autopsy. I wouldnt throw that out the window. Addendum: The cadaver dog wasaso very interested in the washing machine and his handler, Jayne, says quite clearly that her dog has scented death by the machine (check the K9 video, but watch the volume, the cadaver dogs bark is quite shrill! Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. Perhaps it is safer that the majority public dont know the facts. I expect they also make youtube channels of women doing things wrong to say why they hate women, even if men usually do more of those things, If he killed her downstairs how would there have been no movement on main floor shortly after she got home. And in his own words under his own free will he admitted he act it killed his kids twice before that was ever said. I have NO doubt that CW did a choke-hold on his wife from behind or right side, rendering her unconscious while smothering her airwayshe never woke upis why she didnt struggle or stop him. Diana, this is something several of us have noted as well. CW planned it, read it up. Hes asked whether Shannan was strangling CeCe or smothering her, at first he says strangling because this is the only thing that makes his story believable but afterwards he knows theyll be no marks so he says hes not sure. Air chokes have been associated with fractures of the larynx or hyoid bone and are considered less safe than blood chokes in these applications. The police reports contain a conversation Chris had with his father. Chris cleaned all that up so quickly and completely?. Which she combed over the menu trying to come up with that amount for one person. Shanann is very OCD [McKenna Lindstrom, the babysitter]. What are the odds???? The Watts murders got to me also. C . Supposedly he took them out of school and said they wouldnt be coming back. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much. I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. Some people never saw. Make sense? As far as the OCD I dont believe she had it. Esophageal strictures are typically treated with a procedure called esophageal dilation, during which a physician uses a small balloon to stretch open the scar tissue causing the narrowing in the esophagus. Which is odd to me again. Theyd already pulled $10,000 out of Chris 401K to try and get caught up on their mortgage, but they were somehow burning through money like there was no tomorrow. I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. But thats me. He had a schedule and he was sticking to it. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/12/lkl.01.html, There are more details about the Watts precarious and declining financial situation in the body of this article as well: https://shakedowntitle.com/tag/scott-peterson/. @Karen. When people die, sudden or expected, contents of their bowels and bladder are expelled. Blood Alcohol. You know theres plenty of that right? Chris is dead inside. Christopher was sentenced to life in pri No sign of that either. Not a chance she would have run the risk of waking up the children by going into their rooms she knew theyd be fine as shed often said Chris was a good Dad. But considering she seemed to be an amazing mother, I highly doubt she was drinking. I dont think I know everything, but I do know more about this case than most. The money was going somewhere, and the ultimate location all points to ShanAnn the expensive preschool for their girls while ShanAnn quit work to be a stay-at-home mom (she could have been taking care of them herself during the day instead of paying top dollar for strangers to); the Leona Helmsley-level of excessive expensive shoes; that trip to Arizona (which ShanAnn had to pay for) when they were in such a dire financial disaster (credit cards all maxxed out) in service to her MLM; the expensive leased car whose payments werent guaranteed to be paid by the MLM company; all those manicures (those aint cheap) and so on and so forth. If Chris *hadnt* killed them, would he have gone to so much trouble to hide the bodies? Can anyone comment about the oil content in the one childs stomach? Quick as law enforcement were to respond to the crime, by the time they recovered the remains of the two little girls, they had been chemical altered beyond recognition. I guess since theyre children and small its possible. Jami I have 1 question for you. Or after kids went to bed, and Im sure she didnt want to become an instant Mom! in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? ( when they were arguing she couldnt sleep & had been crying all night ) What happened when she got home nobody knows, but I do believe she felt comfortable enough to go online and shop. I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. Even more common with pregnant women. ShanAnn claimed to be pulling down $80,000 a year. I remember one video where shes tasting one of the Thrive bars and effusing over how delicious it is, while one of her daughters cries with hunger in the background, and ShanAnn tells the poor child, No, you cant have this this is Mommys. Chris Watts. In his story he goes downstairs & hears commotion goes into the bedroom & sees Bella on her bed with covers off & then Shannan on top of CeCe. Or even creepier, but fitting the narcissist he is, asked her to lie down and talk to him, maybe even told her he was sorry and wanted to try and work things out and then pinned her down and strangled her. He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. Shanann was found in a shallow grave at an oil site near the drums. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. (Oh and the bra with pregnant women 100% The T and underwear sleep outfit? The full autopsy reports are included below: Watts Aggregate Autopsy Reports by EKilloran on Scribd, MANHUNT: Hobby Lobby Distribution Center Manager Shot Dead in Altercation With Employee, 16-Year-Old High School Student Fatally Stabbed in Classroom Fight, Young Child FaceTimes for Help After 4 Members of Family Slain, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time, In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on. Cyril Wect is an expert who always talks about how drowning victims have water in their lungs ONLY if they are alive during drowning and not completely dead !!!!!! Watts at first tried to claim that when he told Shanann he wanted a separation, she killed their daughters. That discussion included stating she couldnt afford to live in Colorado as a single mom, AND she would have to immediately pull the girls out of school to save money. Unfortunately she never got the chance. He just didnt want another baby. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. Everyone did think I was the nutty one by what he said cause he was a great guy to them. Rossen et al 1943 states that loss of consciousness occurs in five to eleven seconds where there has been carotid and vertebral artery compression. Im enjoying this site (first visit) and thanks for listening. The paper bags are put on the hands to transport the victim after they are found deceased as to not contaminate any potential evidence around the hands, such as DNA evidence under the fingernails. As noted by Crime Watch Daily, police recovered her body in the Frederick area. And about the **bra thing** (on or off, sleep or not), well this is a big deal to me, because I think it can be considered an indicator as to time of death, or at least, it can confirm she had the chance to get out of the clothes she came home in before she was attacked and killed. As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. Like a scene from Friday the 13th. Thats the update; at the beginning of the article, theres a link to the first contact between her and the financial counselor. Watts has since pleaded guilty to killing his wife and daughters, as well as a charge of unlawful termination of a pregnancy. Time needed to cause petechiae is; Fifteen to thirty seconds (Anscombe and Knight 1996); Ten to thirty seconds (Plattner et al 2005); Fifteen seconds maximum (Copley & Kozam 1951) using the capillary fragility test; Shortly after gravity inversion in healthy individuals (Friberg & Weinreb 1985) That is what this whole thing boils down to, Chris not wanting a divorce for the simple fact of having to pay child support on 3 kids. Face? Listen to the cop who interrogated him after he tells that stupid story. He had to be gripping her face pretty damn hard to leave fingerprint bruises along the left side of her face. And where do you think he did it? Watts claimed that he snapped and strangled his wife when he found her murdering the girls, but he later pleaded guilty to all three murders. The Netflix show details the deteriorating relationship between Chris and Shanann, who began suspecting her husband was having an affair and felt he was suddenly pulling away from her, a fact she spilled to numerous friends in anguished text messages. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Or look up the video of the DA talking about the autopsies. The mark on his neck might have been from Bella; Shanann had really long nails. Pee and Poo Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to smothering. From their text messages & hers to friends you can tell he was trying to make her believe they had a chance & things were getting better. Time of death for all three victims is unknown. So weird. However, prosecutors maintained that Watts killed his pregnant wife and the two girls, and eventually he pleaded guilty to the crimes. He said kidnap somebody, murder somebody. ( oh & yes there were handprints in both sides of her neck according to autopsy ) on his arms? In fact, its not just the muscles but also the gas produced inside your body following death that will cause peeing and pooping. Have you read the 2000 page discovery? She was not drinking! Part of the evidence that he put into the trash. Gastrointestinal Tract: One of the unknowns in this case is why Watts did what he did. There is supposed to be a black smear mark on one of her pillows, possibly from makeup she was wearing, indicating that she was crying. Watts was no genius, by saying he saw her kill CeCe and giving such a short timeframe for their killings, he left it wide open that they could have been saved had he called 911 or administered CPR instead of murdering his pregnant wife. This is from the transcript of the Larry King Live show covering Scott Petersons conviction in the death of his pregnant wife Lacey thats Dr. Henry Lee, a forensic scientist: KING: If there were smothering, would there have been evidence? He has to be asked if he EVER went to look at Bella and see what condition she was in. Meacham [who knew Shanann from school] described Shanaan as OCD in the way the household operated. I am in Australia and I came across this story by accident and I am just horrified. He continuously maintained throughout the entire interrogation that he would never hurt those kids. Why was her phone downstairs along with suitcase. 100% agree. Death by asphyxiation in each case. You wrote a book blaming Shannan- seems to me youre just throwing your assumptions around. I would say the asshole probably turned them over or put the comforter over their faces and did it that way. She felt that he is going out to pour oil on the bodies to dispose of them. Her husband spoke to Chris and he was not shedding a tear about his missing family.. A Stranglehold can incapacitate and render unconsciousness within 5 11 seconds. She seemed to be in pajamas which indicates she got into bed, which sickly matches up with his barely got into bed remark, The sheets were stripped because they probably got pulled off anyway during the act. A tee-shirt and undies is a Sleeping Uniform for many women, another fact. When youre pregnant, your chest grows significantly and pretty rapidly- its completely understandable that she might have been wearing one to bed. This is an excellent theory and makes a TON of sense!!! They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. He doesnt have a soul!!!!! I have come to think of her OCD tendencies as a bit like the way she was around her kids. Do you think youre asking for reasonable evidence that would be commonplace and easy to produce? Police came but found no sign of Celeste Watts or Bella Marie Watts. Any attacking motion he made that Shanann saw, even for a second, would have prompted her to scream. Everything you say can & has been disputed. Like you, I was suspicious about the DAs assessment. Everything else was secondary or something to be minimized so she could focus on her addiction. He would have had more than enough access to ethanol or similar alcohols. I did. PLEASE know, all of these words are helping me to work through an event that is really messing with my head. Utter Rubbish! He asked to speak to his father before confessing. So completely terrible. This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. One body was face down in the south side of the tank. ~KSmallz. Was the examiner not able to determine the order in which Shanann and the girls were killed? The DA explained that it is due to decomposition and the body breaking down. There is cowardice involved but theres an easier way to attack and subdue someone than to wait for them to fall asleep. Chris Watts is the subject of a new Netflix series called American Murder: The Family Next Door. The two girls were found in oil drums. I find it odd that Shanann was wearing a bra when found. I did mention that Shanann was still in love with him and wanted a child with, and wanted to work on their marriage right up until the moment of her death. He had a plan to kill them all, all along. MYTH: OCD IS JUST ABOUT HAND-WASHING, CLEANING, AND BEING NEAT. Because he said hed never hurt his girls? Not on his hands around her throat? That does not necessarily equate to being a psychiatric disorder, just personal empowerment. I am 57, I weigh 132 lbs.. .,,, I had my husband straddle my chest and pin my arms down and Im telling you right now, I could not move. They should have been talked to later. Nickole called Chris several times and he kept giving different arrival times. He knew immediately Watts was guilty as well as the neighbor viewing the camera. Also zero evidence that she was in bed. It wouldnt have mattered about sleeping in the same bra and panties as shed travelled in she was going to be waking up at 4am when Chris woke as shed asked him to wake her and the hair care product purchase attempt was around 2am, so what would 2 more hours mean? He couldnt get into anyways so I dont know what the plan was gonna be after. As someone who has OCD I would appreciate if everyone commenting here would look up the mental condition. They obviously didnt watch the K9 body cam footage! Just a suggestion. It was all a complete lie. but I dont think she ever went upstairs, not even to check on the girls. The toxicology results likely represent decomposition and an artifact of being submerged in an oil tank for several days. GREELEY, Colo. Authorities have released the autopsy reports for Shanann, Bella and Celeste Watts, who were murdered by Christopher Watts in August. CW was already working out his plan to annihilate his family around the time he was getting ready to make his daughters some dinner. A . Doesnt mean he couldnt have used his presence in the marital bed to induce her to get close to him and give him the opportunity. The next morning, visible fingerprints (the circular marks on Shaanns autopsy), so visible that others took notice. As a former forensic detective I dont completely agree with the DAs comment that it is normal. In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on CrimeOnline, investigators appear incredulous that he was able to fit the bodies into the tanks, but Watts claimed he was able to do so without difficulty. Her neck muscles had been bruised and the manner of death was deemed a homicide. In that sense when you learn her OCD was a significant factor, you ask how significant. 53 102 comments sorted by New Add a Comment And if the girls mentioned a nikki shanann may just assume her friend. could also suggest a Stranglehold. Poor Bella was smothered with extreme force to her face that it left bruising. So its OCD when it comes to what people see, both house and life if you will..but a suitcase at 2 am, 4 months pregnant, I could easily see her saying nope to carrying that suitcase upstairs. He organized the bins in the basement. My youngest daughter slept in a bra as well. Here is the parts in Shanann's autopsy report that says the stuff about how her hair was sloughing, that she had skin slippage & bloating/decomposing had started. Nickole Atkinson on ABC: Shanann was very OCD So wheres the problem here? The girls were wearing nightgowns, Cece a pink nightgown with birds on it, and Bellas nightgown had a unicorn or believe on it. Three days after the murders, on August 16, police discovered Shanann's body in a shallow grave and the girls stuffed inside nearby oil tanks on the . He didnt know what to do and was shaking. (942948) Interview with NK about CW's failing marriagehe badmouthed SW a lot . I am by no means defending him. We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. Triggers related to cleanliness and symptoms related to washing make up only a small part of the range The HORRIFIC, worse than most of us originally thought truth; Bella and Cece were ALIVE on the drive, Bella even commented on the smell of her mothers body on the floor under their feet in the back seat because her bowels had evacuated when she died; its horrific to know that he dumped those little girls, unconscious but still alive out of fear that they would wake up again and the disgusting coward and monster that he is- he said he was FURIOUS that they somehow woke up after he thought hed killed them in thier beds. If they were pliable makes me wonder if they were not deceased that long before he was able to shove them into the tanks. He resented how close they all were and was sadistic enough to hurt her. Much more interest in the case in his home state; in Wisconsin, hes just a number. In the interrogation CW was blaming Shannan for killing the girls, and in the next breath trying to protect NK. They were out of town and it was still spotless. Once youre already unconscious from sleep & then start losing air from throttling it would make you very disoriented & hard to come to fully conscious state & fight back before losing total consciousness again. Im a survivor. Makes sense since Shanann has zero marks indicating a struggle, I thought from the jump that she wasnt even awake when he killed her. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. Thats why the strangulation was gentle, not violent, as the hyoid was not broke, and there were no defensive wounds to her or him. http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, But Celeste didnt have oil her stomach. while he killed them one after another. Ive never personally had a child repeatedly behave as the girls did, and pleasea disclaimer here. Lack of petechiae. Maybe im not reading this correctly or i missed it but what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids? He didnt attempt to revive the children or call for help. I think he had mental issues too. Police photoA sheet was found near where Shanann was buried. The ethanol levels are perplexing though; even in decomposition they are rarely above .07. He failed all 3 questions. Want to keep up with the latest. And then I freaked out and hurt her., He whispered, Sheshe smothered them. I think His story is believable. I was VERY proud of my being able to take down the biggest man in my class. Peanuts and tree nuts are VERY different, and supposedly CeCe had a *tree nut* allergy coconut, not peanuts! I always slept in a bra when I was in my 20s and 30s. The autopsy reports for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters show that all three were asphyxiated to death, and it's probable that 4-year-old Bella Watts fought for her life.. I dont know why, but I have a deep need (would have never expected this) to discuss what happened, and I need to be honest with my observations. Explains why Shanann didnt fight back. Cause if it was the way CW said she would have fought back. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged three and four on August 13, 2018. Defining post mortem bruising requires qualified scientific investigation. You should apologise to him actually for your rude remarks in your comment. The autopsy report found that Shanann was in her second trimester of pregnancy and that the "largely decomposed fetus and placental unit" was found "expelled from the gravid uterus." She hurt my kids., Chris said, Theyre in a freakin oil tank. Shanann was discovered in a "foetal position" in a shallow grave, while her two young daughters were found in "crude oil sludge". like others, cannot wrap my brain around his behavior. With her like this would the conspiracy theory about her killing not happening until Tues or Wed not be possible? But yeah I really think he was being nicer to her to assure she had her guard down when he murdered her; which was when she was sleeping, on the sofa upstairs on her phone or laptop, or god forbid he initiated some kind of intimacy that turned into her death. In the autopsy Shannan was found to be still wearing a bra. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time. Good to have a former forensic detective around. Also this is awful but he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. I also have seen that neighbors vid of the loading of truck & see a female in video helping him load up , and even a small luve figure of a child. Similarly, the anxiety caused by these obsessions can be lessened by different compulsions, such as checking (e.g., re-checking door locks, repeatedly making sure the oven is off), repeating (e.g., doing the same action or ritual over and over to be sure it was done correctly), and counting (e.g., doing things in certain numbers, counting items to certain numbers). Nor did any part of whats left of a moral consciousness scream what are you doing?!!! I remember reading as part of the Scott Peterson murder investigation that they found traces of fecal matter in the carpet (which had been cleaned) in a downstairs hallway, I think, but I just looked around and couldnt find anything, so I must have mis-remembered. Hes asked what happened after Shannan was dead he says he carried her to their room and put her back into bed. And the decision to move Chris out of state as well? @Carol: OCD appears at least 5 times in the Discovery Documents. And fyi, I am not going to use the actual pictures/videos in my project. That alone speaks volumes how they were approaching their relationship. I am new to this case, a couple of months of watching/listening to your videos Nick, and I am now working my way through your books. MLM comes across in this paper as a cult-like entity that epitomizes absolute evil (evil = a foundation of lies) especially when you read the case histories. She was wearing a black or gray t-shirt and blue underwear. etc. Infuriating! Theres really not much to say about this, right? police fileA picture Shanann sent a friend. @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to manual strangulation by another individual. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. of OCD triggers and symptoms. 1. The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. She was not drinking while pregnant! He said Shanann said she was going to a friends house with their two kids. Every detail was wrong for them as a couple and as a family. I was terrified gravity would wreck my boobs. The autopsy also made no references to elevated levels of any Thrive-related chemicals. God I wish she had taken the girls and just got the heck out of there. Shananns Blood Alcoholic Content was 0.128. The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy report says. In the 2000 page report that was released they pose the theory that she may have been asleep while attacked. He went from great dad to not wanting anything to do with them, me or any responsibilities. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. Cheryl: If Chris did that, he definitely has to die. She also wanted to make her marriage work. https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions-and-treatments/conditions/e/esophageal-strictures, a medical history significant for peanut allergies. Fecal traces also missing in the Zahau case. Did anyone explain that? And all I can see is ShanAnns MLM addiction coupled with the desire to live well beyond her means, to give an impression that she was rich-rich-rich, which Im sure she envisioned as a way to promote her business get new people to sign on. It DOES NOT make her a bad mother when I comment on what I saw and what I think. He vacuumed twice a day. The bra thing means nothing, my daughter is big busted as well and slept in her bra when she was pregnant because her breasts that were tender were less bothersome at night if she wore one. The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy for Bella said. He said those were consistent with trying to flee while being smothered. But hed then be a full time father leaving him not much time to galavant with NK except when a babysitter came. It just seems to me that Bella would actually have had to swallow the oil to get it into her stomach. It appeared to be an addiction by this point it was all she wanted to do. 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