Second Saturn transit to IC was at age 40. People will come to you for advice and you may be a teacher or mentor. Pholus Conjunct the IC The IC is one's childhood home. Posts: 134647From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate.Registered: Apr 2009, Posts: 4609From: Portland, OR - USARegistered: Oct 2011. When Pluto transited my N Moon in conjunction (Scorpio Moon), I was young but I had MAJOR changes in my domestic life. When Saturn transits the nadir you may want to go home. I could not go back, and I couldnt find a satisfying solution. . What a year 2004/05 Im having NN return again in 2022. I discovered a lot. In addition to this, the M.C. Natal conjunctions by two consecutive full moons one an eclipse cannot count for nothing. Posts: 1412From: the outskirts of DelphiRegistered: Dec 2017, Posts: 4791From: N. AmericaRegistered: Nov 2010, Posts: 408From: CanadaRegistered: Aug 2013, my ex and i broke up after almost 15 years, which was for the best, and i sobered up a good deal (been high this past month admittedly though, just weed but) and some pretty terrible stuff happened too but i won't get into that, it wasnt all bad, was life changing, no physical move but home drastically changed, Copyright 2020 That is the only way if we are talking about real astrology. Saturn conjunct Midheaven transit is a time of culmination in your career or long-term goal. April 10, 2018 at 9:38 pm. I could feel a change coming that would involve a major move and not knowing what it was going to be, I pared down and remained quiet. I've been back in Brazil for just over 3 weeks and much has happened already, or has it not?! This. This configuration coupled with the Saturn square forced me to adopt the cold detachment of Aquarius while remaining aloof refusing to connect or reconnect with psychos and socios i should have no contact with or get attached to, and do this without fear of anything, because planets are on my side. Whatever the secret is, loving and believing in oneself! Hi Katie, Pluto in my 4th has been, to say the least, a revelation, forcing me to take off some rose colored glasses. Celine Dion 006, Bernadette Peters 008, Emily Dickson 009, Cecilia Bartoli 012, Gene Wilder 014, Uri Geller 015, Jennifer Gibbons 038, Athol Rusden 039, Madeleine of Scotland 058, John Hurt 102, Elizabeth II 107, Paddy Ashdown 130, Lord Byron 131, Mary MacArthur 146, Oliver Stone 151, Karen Silkwood 154, June Gibbons 156, Rudy Giuliani 236, Jeane Dixon 239, John Frawley 249. Now Im too tired and old to get the most out of it. You're sensitive to all parameters of leadership now. Well, Saturn has been transiting my 4th house for almost 4 years now and there are 3 months left to go. My Solar Return for 2023 suggests that I might move again the next time I have Saturn conjunct my IC. Very formative year that set me on a better path. Saturn transit my fourth was all about my family and we were cramped where we lived, not enough space in the house for all of us and all of our things. Its a lifetime process. BUT, for the first 8 months of my Prog moon in the 4th I watched TONS of WW2 documentary and I was crying all the time watching them! Dr. Jordan Peterson- a clinical psychologist, from Canada, who has been the voice of free speech and non-conformity in his public life, who just recently had to enter into rehab due to his use of anxiety medicine, due to his wife on the verge of death. Pluto is hanging out in my 4th house, Im trying not to be afraid of Saturn coming next. I would look at your mothers transits as well. How apropo for my natal Pluto square Saturn setup. But I had both my children with Saturn in my 4th. These Pluto conjunctions will take place over a five or six year period. I guess mine is a midlife experience! Oh I hope not. Sometimes this aspect can indicate delays in your career but it can also mean great responsibility placed on you from an early age. My very first Saturn IC transit brought me a 85 year old nun they pulled out of retirement to teach one more year. It can be the start of something new, some new work of sorts. Another person may not have a home to go to. It felt exciting! Nice aspects Sextile moon in Taurus, 0 orb Trine Venus in Scorpio 1 orb Tricky aspects Square Mercury and Pluto in Libra, 0 orb Inconjunct Neptune in Sag, Jupiter in Aquarius, making a Yod The sextile with the Moon is the base point of another Yod with Neptune st the apex. So I have Uranus, Neptune, Saturn and MC in Capricorn. They may feel a lack of nurturing or just plain lonely. Loads of questioning my past choices that got me to this point, and it is a struggle to be positive in the present, but Im managing, if anyone reading this is wondering if this transit is subject to coping. I drove off, running away. On January 26th next year, transit Saturn would be conjuncting my natal Juno. I have natal Jupiter conjunct my MC. It can be quite hard, but through these hardships ideally you learn to work together and find joy despite the adversities. Going forward, the analytical Virgos involvement with my nodes means im going to let loose Virgos discrimination in picking and choosing who i allow into my space and who i get attached to and why. I wonder where hers lies. literally hanging in there and trying to find the light in all of this. Anyway, heres the kicker that led me on this investigative quest in the first place. Required fields are marked *. Detachment and non attachment are great tools in life. We (4H) moved (Mars) for better schools (Gemini) for the kids and we hosted lots of school-related parties. I certainly hope so! In this period of your life, you often have to face challenges and overcome them. I have saturn conj. If all the worked out in the end!!! Mars opposite Saturn:This transit calls for caution, diligence, and responsible behavior. Actually, alongside the process (lifetime) my prevalent thought is that I feel some deep questioning as to WHY these transforming processes come so late in life! My family is a blessing, however I still feel alone. I had started laying what I thought was a foundation when the first Saturn-Uranus square threw me a boomerang, debunked that, redirected my focus and energies. Confirmed by the Jupiter (big) square to Neptune (illusion). Isolation is the least Im concerned actually. But, I have a feeling if I resolve the issue surrounding household renovation to meet my needs Ill be able to successfully address the osteoporosis!Mainly I want a bigger dining area so I can entertain friends I am a Libra after all and having a better place to accommodate friends will help me express my Sun in Libra and relieve some Saturn transiting the 4th sense of isolation. Pluto has transited my N 4th H, and on its way out to Aquarius, will soon square my N Moon. ago Good things to come? Im dealing with both Pluto and Saturn, a complete drama. I think of this now as there have been a number of murderers lately whose defense is that god told them to do it or that the person(s) they killed was spawned by satan. 10 Reply [deleted] 4 mo. First Saturn transit to IC was at 10 years old. Well, Neptune also started opposing my Sun recently, so I guess that contributes a lot as I have no idea who I am anymore and this affects nearly everything. About 18 months ago I had transit Saturn conjunct my Midheaven (opposite IC): on the day that the aspect was exact, I lost my job due to covid. New moon in Scorpio on 7 November would orbit to become a full moon in Gemini on 22 November. Yes saturn on her MC the duty , the responsibility, wow. The aspect of conjunction was considered just a name for any of aspects, any contacts of planets, since it represents the 0-degree angle. When Saturn conjuncts your Midheaven it's also forming an opposition to the IC which means the foundation you built around 14 years ago, when Saturn entered your 4th house, will come under . Saturn in 4 has moved over my progressed Sun/Mars in the 4th and I have been diagnosed with osteoporosis. The most important thing to take from this transit is to take responsibility, for your past, present, and future. Glad that is all over! I am quite happy with my modest circumstances. In retrospect, I feel that I missed these fantastic opportunities even though they were presented right on my lap and for a longer period of time. They may be orphaned or unwelcome in their family. Ah, moon opposite saturn hard to look on the positive side. The type of limitations is colored by the sign and aspects of your Saturn and north node. SR MC exactly conjunct natal IC - Im not sure that it is important aspect in this case In transits he has: long lasting transit Saturn trine natal Venus transit Jupiter is going soon make conjunction to natal Ascendent in Libra Let us know how will be your next year and when you will meet sombedy, if it would lead to marriage. I think unexpected planets are little understood. But the past 1 1/2 years have been unsettling as parts of my life I had counted on suddenly vanished. . Same here, despite some fearful anticipations (Pluto square Moon -transit and Saturn transits), I do not feel too bothered any more. I think I experienced it more in relation to Saturn's square to my Asc and opposition to MC: health and work/expectations. It is possible that circumstances will occur that force a major review of your goals and where you are heading with your career. Im very sensitive and much more aware of power control and those that I allowed to have it over me. I was working on a construction contract on the coast. I then moved back to my hometown and received a lot of support and found another job via my hometown connections. Had to move back home briefly to lick my wounds, but happily moved on to pastures new! Not much, well as a 29 years old I started University atlast! [The tragedy of a double life]. Anyway, these two dreams seem related to this transit. Saturn conjunct the Descendant to Saturn conjunct the MC This starts a period where you become more outgoing and are usually eager to offer your skills to the world. It's expressed in the style of whatever sign the conjunction occupies. This time will be especially significant the older you are. But I am hopeful that may only apply to the Natal chart 4th. Why religion is mixed into the seaminess I experience I do not know unless it is just the popular go to excuse. Unlike the most popular interpretation of an unaspected planet is that due to a lack of aspects it lacks expression in the person. Chiron was transiting my MC/10H (same area where pluto has been transiting since 2017 till now!) How are you doing three years after? A Plutonian Imagination. In my chart Saturn (1851 Aries 10th house) is conjunct Midheaven (1823 Aries). Interesting. Designed to help you in the 1 minute it takes to read them. When I told my mom, she told me that the nun was an agent of god and therefore right. Whatever your rhythm when this hits, it's thrown out of whack and you like it. I send you, and everyone who reads my comment, my warm regards, be well! I know its in Taurus from the Saturn returns. Astrology nor planets make things happen in our lives. why is there no saturn sextile midheaven on this website? I knew nobody where I lived and was very lonely. Ready for some peace and lighter living. The house itself needs about $40,000 to update it and I keep going back and forth about what to do. They were both admitted to Broadmoor Hospital where they were held for 11 years. I got relationships that brought out my hidden blocks and hindrances for me to see and acknowledge. I am not interested in online dating. The tighter is is the more dramatic the year. Discovering astrology helped me understand why my emotional landscape, experience and expression was much more powerful than i have witnessed in anyone else ive ever met. Diana, many parallels between your experience and mine of Saturn transiting 4th. Ive had most hard transits hit me in my 40s ! I will always have to deal with the seamier side. The 2020 debunking by Saturn-Uranus square was a second move in a wrong direction. Remember that big January 2019 eclipse at 0degrees of Leo, which involved the stellium in Capricorn, Pluto Mars Saturn and the works? By ASTROFIX ASC DESC MC IC A nchored at the core. Sign up here! Hi BPip, I also thought of the queen when I read this!! Depending on other aspects to your Midheaven and any fixed star conjunctions, Saturn conjunct Midheaven can manifest as great achievement and success in your career or loss and disappointment. This is the third time Saturn is transiting my 4th. Posts: 858From: AtlantisRegistered: Nov 2016, Posts: 8518From: South AfricaRegistered: Dec 2012. Shedding unnecessary stuff within oneself. Can you imagine? Indeed, that occurred to me too! I have an unaspected moon also, ruler of my MC and located in IX. Technical support support@astrolada.com. Saturn still exact on mercury. (My moon is 3rd house too unaspected.makes me go beyond the boundaries of traditional thought, seeking philosophy, very open-minded, sometimes too much perhaps lol). This is not necessarily a negative thing for you but some expectations could be involved here. The sense of pressure feels nothing short of epic. In my case it seems that the physical moves and the angst around moving homes/locations preceded the conjunction. The issues before me at this present time are contaminated water via the defense force RAAF base near my home & a compensation case I am involved with because of it. A book which has been helpful for this transit and all things Saturn is Erin Sullivans Saturn In Transit where she addresses the heroic journey as lived through the transits. Also, the progressed chart moon would be conjunting my progressed IC. I've been socialising quite a bit and . As Saturn will spend about 2 years in Aquar. I dreamed I was on a ship at anchor in mid ocean: the whales and dolphins leaped for joy! Uranus direct involvement with the eclipses is giving me no reprieve from these people but i can handle them thanks to Pluto trining my Uranus in Virgo and Saturn transiting my 4th while squaring Uranus and eclipses stationing direct in a trine to my Sun in Gemini. Saturn is now going through my own 4th house. Posts: 858 I moved in with my husband and 3 year old son, leaving my eldest son who was about to graduate high school, living with his father about an hour away. By the way,I have Pluto just finishing its 4th house transit. My life would PERHAPS been happier and more successful`, had I had this wisdom (gained) when I was younger. I would have liked to study further in Oregon but my teen-aged kids needed to be in New Zealand. Read more to see how Saturn affects you as it transits your natal houses. Lily. The transit frequently coincides with an empty nest. You mean Pluto can make you be homeless for 20 long years!??? Registered: Feb 2010. It was more a process in which I felt like my health and productivity were not measuring up to what I would like them to be and feeling out why what's the cause what's worth aiming for/expecting? I ended up moving to my older sisters place (moving home) in Oregon where I am now happily living in a tiny room amidst 7 members of my extended family. Dwads highlighted aspects that are already there in my natal chart but which remain hidden because astrology systems dont show IC, like they dont show South Node and their aspects. I searched. Thats what Ive done & while draining at times, it has been profitable & also used up the energy so to speak. My 10year journey of death and rebirth continues. Saturn Conjunct Saturn This is the storied Saturn return, whether you're having it between the ages of 28.5-30, 58-60, or 88-90. I am looking at all my personal and professional resources and thinking about how to contribute professionally (Saturnine structure) over the coming years while being at home with my own need to live a simpler life. Saturn conjunct my IC was in my 3rd housethat was a pretty good time, in retrospect. While I recovered, Im not sure my mother (IC) ever will. You are reaping the reward of at least 7 and possibly 14 years of striving. On the one side my IC completes the kite for my Grand Water Trine which includes Neptune in Scorpio, North Node in Pisces and MC in Cancer, on the other side Jupiter-South Node conjunction closes the Kite in Virgo. As far as shes concerned her main concern is her horse and corgis. Release in many respect, has brought more moments of happiness and fulfilment in my life. My Solar Return for 2023 suggests that I might move again the next time I have Saturn conjunct my IC. Tr. I know, its horrible, the older one gets, the clearer one sees. Havent thouht about uranus and this one is quite a bad boy. After being severely bullied at school they began writing works of fiction but turned to crime when they started experiencing criminal tendencies. Jan 28, 2021 #1 Hello! However, the meaning will be the same. Anne Whittaker has written about the transits of the outer planets to the IC in a moving way. Gemini sun versatile mental sign that is able to adapt to different situations or search for better alternatives if the current situations arent worth adapting to. House at the time had no roof, and no heating in new bedroom extension. He will be crossing for the first time end of January 2019. During their stay in the hospital, they began to believe that it was necessary for one of them to die, and after much discussion, Jennifer agreed to be the sacrifice. MC thankfully not exact! You're finding out is that you're human. Polly Wallace wrote that 'The IC, the undersky, is reflected by invisible roots that are vital for stability and nourishment. The South Node in the Natal Chart Hi Lou, i found that Uranus(planet of sudden change) in Taurus(ruler of earned income and physical structures) has a lot to do with psychos and socios re: finances and accommodation. Im Aries moon with Mars in the 1st house cusp in fire Sag. Saturn symbolises the structures in our lives such as career, stability, family and the 'old ways'. I saw classmates being punched on the back mercilessly, her fingernails relentlessly rat a tat tatting on their heads, their knuckles beaten with wooden rulers, and their backs as they were made to kneel on the hard tile floor with their hands in the chalkboard tray. Is she Out? I see, since a conjunction to your IC means an opposition to your MC how was your public persona and or career affected? I live in a beautiful yet small 350 sq ft studio underneath my landlords who are nice but loud and it is too small, the ceiling too low. Even though Saturn is far away from the nadir now, Im having chiron in the 1H in my 2022 solar return its an ongoing story of having to fend off for myself despite the wound (i still cant pay for a house and feel not at home) and the necessity of letting go and letting god. Saturn is about to go back to my 4th from July-Dec but mostly over. Saturn in my 4th house had a lot of ups and downs. What more will there be? Natal Saturn conjunct Chiron can indicate a rigid personality. I just became much more grounded and more thoroughly formed as a person. Its not like things were perfect after that, but I had a certain inner contentment after Saturn left my 4th house, that I didnt have before or during for the most part. I have natally Sun conjunct Saturn and Moon opposite. Where did you read that?? Answer (1 of 3): What a transit will mean for you personally is something for which your natal chart must be analyzed at first and other transits happening must be taken into account as well. I have just started dating a person who I think may be able to love me (meaning I may be able to feel lovable), yet she lives in another city 2.5 hours away. Also, he receives loose opposition from Mars (023 Libra 3rd house). Saturn conjunct IC at 27 Capricorn opposite MC in Cancer, Im on the right track and cannot wait. This conjunction is not easy to deal with. I finally understood the family politic. Would love to hear more about your experience of the unaspected moon ruling a crucial element of the chart (your sun & my MC). Home / Aspects / Saturn Aspects / Saturn Conjunct Midheaven. I live in a land lease community where there are a number of elderly residents among us. And yes very potent. Im going solo and will find employees. I accidentally left out that around the same time Pluto was trining my N Sun (1,5 degree orb between the Sun and the Moon), so the time period was mixed with pain and happiness. A serious event, illness, or issue with your parents made you grow up quickly. Sent 3-5 times a week. So, bad with the good. It hurts me to see that. Karmic indeed. You will most likely feel a strong sense of duty and will strive with determination to do something significant with your life. IP: Logged. So.capricorn/earth/10 house will be the challenge. Saturn conjunct Chiron natal aspects are connected with low self-esteem and an inner expectation to accomplish a lot. In the Midheaven especially Things. I would say the feeling is normal but it's not necessarily typical. I was lonely. The last time Saturn transited my 4th I was forced to move back with my parents due to a strange, difficult to diagnose illness. (Now Neptune is with Mars/Venus.) Contact with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are felt over longer periods. I was previously telling about the time Pluto transited my N Moon in Scorpio. Pluto, its ruler, is placed in the twelfth house conjunct Mercury, Saturn, Venus, Moon and Sun in Leo. They may be orphaned or unwelcome in their family. I dont know, I sincerely feel that Saturn has to do with karma. It can also be a time of great accomplishment, thanks to your increased ability to get organized and to focus. Like I said mines in Taurus, But I never understood that placement. Like moving here snd finding a bio unit off kilter with me being targeted by the ring leader. You can see how Jennifers stronger conjunction gave her a stronger sense of duty, and she did make the ultimate sacrifice in March 1993. I feel homesick for my ex, his kids, our dog, and the life I had. Moving home? The Moon rules my 10th H. New Moon in a solar return chart may mean a new relationship. I will look into that for you Helen. It will arise out of the ashes like the phoenix as Pluto hits my Venus 29 degree cappy. I did some research and discovered that 19 Sag (my IC) is associated with the left femoral neck sort of the hip. There are typos in Elsas article on the 4th. Interesting point Denyse. I am aqua. Last year, 2017, transiting Saturn conjuncted natal Neptune on the descendant and squared natal Saturn; I started working as an administrative assistant at an environmental facility of the government. Im hopeful, as Jupiter will be coming through in 2020. Right now a fresh writing is on the wall and it reads: Im on the right Saturnian track. A recipe for distaster as far as I'm concerned. My natal Saturn at 4degrees Taurus already squares MC and IC. But, right now tr. In the second week of March I suddenly lost all three of my jobs (due to CA shelter in place order) and coincidentally was asked to leave my rented cottage on the same day! 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