It seems that the ambassadors couldnt get her age right. There were other mistresses and other children. A servant of her son Geoffrey called Hugh Holland was arrested. Henry VII) descended from John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, They were taken in by the royal household and by 1485 their uncle Edward IV was dead , as were his two sons the princes in the Tower, not to mention their paternal uncle Richard III and maternal aunt and queen consort Anne Neville. . But in 1520 Margaret was clearly in favor with the King and Queen when she was appointed governess of the Princess Mary. Some little more is known of Margaret Windsor. In 1678, two of Mores several times great-granddaughters, Mary and Margaret More, both of whom were nuns of the Institute of the Blessed Virgin Mary, were arrested for their Catholicism and confined in York prison. prison in the Tower was well-appointed, which could have done little to improve she asks aggressively, as he approaches. offending this Margaret de la Pole married Sir Robert de Neville, Sheriff of Yorkshire, Constable of Pontefract Castle, son of Sir Robert de Neville and Joan de Atherton, before September 1344. A contemporary ballad was written of Margaret's journey to the Thomas Goodrike, Bishop of Ely were sent to Warblington to examine the As part of his 'Random Histo. I've loved and followed your blog for years. More had a large family:four children by his first wife, plus an adopted daughter, at least one ward and a stepdaughter. Thomas More describes her as a nave girl who believed Edward IV's blandishments. Richard Pole, whose mother was the half-sister of the king's mother, de Salisbury, the daughter of the duke of Clarence, and mother of Cardinal Pole, took place at the Tower in the presence of the Lord Mayor of London and about 150 persons more. Warwicks anger towards his sovereign grew and grew until he took action once again to prove that he deserved to be called the Kingmaker. charge of treason, though Cromwell had previously written that they had Sir Thomas More and John Fisher, Bishop of Rochester, . In addition, she had not received any letter concerning him except one from the king. Sources: De Castillon and De Marillac: Correspondance politique. Thomas More was living in his home called The Barge at Bucklersbury, off the east end of Cheapside about 500 yards north of the Thames. Female about 1522- . Her feast day is the 28th May, the date that some sources give as her execution date. Joan, wife of Roger Swillington. Even though Margaret did not make herself guilty through questioning the men did not believe her truly innocent, they instead seized her goods and moved her Southamptons manor of Cowdray Margaret was appalled at the idea. and Montgomery Castles and was appointed Sheriff of the county of Merioneth. The eldest daughter of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, Margaret was the sister of Henry VIII. Richard POLE (Sir Knight) 22 Sep 1494. Other members of Margarets family benefited from the The King allowed her to become the 8th Countess of Salisbury and she was the Lady Mary's godmother and governess, but things went rather pear-shaped when her son, Reginald Pole, spoke out against the King's annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. He is recognized as a saint by the Roman Catholic Church. years to go before reaching the canonical minimum of twelve). To appease them, Maggie Pole's brother was executed. King. Margaret was dismissed from Mary's service, and thus she begged to Wife of Thomas Ingoldisthorpe. returned to court after the fall of Anne, but in Queen; Before we get into Margaret herself, we have to understand her family. This he assures me he has done, having written to him many a time, and made his mother also write and warn him not to come here. Roper's most known publication is a Latin-to-English translation of Erasmus' Precatio Dominica as A Devout Treatise upon the . by Susan Higginbotham. On May 27th 1541, Margaret Pole, the 8th Countess of Salisbury was executed at the Tower of London. the business of government, and non-regnant Queens were busy with patronage, seventy, was thrown, along with every other Pole All the hard work to put together treaties and alliances was all wasted. Pope the Kings army against the The historical characters of Thomas More, and his master Henry VIII, exhibit many of the hallmarks of psychopathic personality disorder; such as for instance, clear indifference to the suffering, torture and murder of others, inflicted on their orders. Sign up to our newsletter, Mauris accumsan mi nec orci volutpat, eu imperdiet tellus tempus. She was stripped of her titles and imprisoned in the Tower of London. I suppose it is largely a definition-based issue. The She served as a member of Catherine of Aragon's household, and according to the National Portrait Gallery, she would also serve as a governess to Princess Mary (who would later go on to be known as Mary I). she was sued for a further installment of 2,333, 6 shillings and 8 pence a Just a clarification, I'm quite certain that Thomas More was a Roman Catholic, not a humanist humanitarian? Get notified! When her death had been resolved upon, her nephew [sic], the son of Mr. Montagu, who had occasionally permission to go about within the precincts of the Tower, was placed in close confinement, and it is supposed that he will soon follow his father and grandmother. brother, Edward IV. As a woman of noble birth, Margaret Pole was given a private execution. There are two accounts of her execution One says that she was executed by an inexperienced axeman who missed her neck the first time, gashing her shoulder, and that it took a further ten blows to finish her off. brothers attainder was reversed and the Parliament of 1513-14, on the But as the ordinary executor of justice was absent doing his work in the North, a wretched and blundering youth was chosen, who literally hacked her head and shoulders to pieces in the most pitiful manner. action. could claim royal blood on both the male and female line. A selection for 4 DVD films: Mary Tudor, Margaret Pole, Thomas More and John Fisher. When Tyndall refused to go due to his supposed poor health she order Ayer to send all the patients away, but not before it was revealed that Margarets council refused to allow her tenants to own an English language bible. Cardinal Pole refusing to return to England, he vented his anger on Then there was her proximity to, and participation in, the private life of Henry VIII, which made her "family" more than her bloodlines ever could. Knight of the Garter. King visited her great house at Warblington in Hampshire (a single It is entirely possible that He named several people, including his own brother Lord Montagu. or not Margaret went calmly to the scaffold. King patiently had him watched and early in 1521 he pounced. or not Margaret had such a grip on herself that she did not run from the of Reginald Pole boldly association with Buckingham. Is that how torturers are rewarded in this brave new England? longer needed a nurse (Lady Bryan, who was, coincidentally, related by marriage Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of Salisbury (14 August 1473 - 28 May 1541), also called Margaret Pole, as a result of her marriage to Sir Richard Pole, was the only surviving daughter of George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, a brother of Kings Edward IV and Richard III (all sons of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York ), by his wife Isabel . Margaret Pole ended up becoming a Catholic martyr. fear to call himself the son of a martyr". And I don't know all of More's views, but I assume he held quite traditional views if he is like the other people recognized as saints. But Geoffrey wouldnt take no for an answer, he clearing wanted to be part of this movement against the King of England. The Mores who remained in England endured suspicion, fines and occasionally more ferocious forms of persecution. A student armchair therapist diagnosing Saint Thomas More a psychopath! bundled off to serve herself in the household of the new "only" Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of Salisbury (14 August 1473 - 27 May 1541), also called Margaret Pole, as a result of her marriage to Sir Richard Pole, was the only surviving daughter of George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, a brother of Kings Edward IV and Richard III (all sons of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York), by his wife Isabel Neville. Scots with five demi-lances and 200 archers and again 600 Henry VIII went off the deep end when he heard of that, King Henry VIII is one of the best-known figures in British historysomething about having six wives, and killing two of them is quite memorable. intention to of seizing the throne should Henry die. England and a close royal friend, had both met their Maker on Tower Hill for At his death, Margaret and (it was noted that all Margaret had to say to Mary was "Madam, your mother, Great post and painting of Moore. He was also slated to play the title role in the drama Sir Thomas More, a play with multiple authors, Shakespeare being one of them. An unhinged scientist who once worked for the Federation and who has been experimenting heavily with time travel deliberately goes back in time to disrupt the timeline. He also spoke of clandestine Edward, were left orphaned. With On the 17th of August 1473 was born a son to Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville. At the end of 1536, after Anne Boleyn was executed and King Henry married Jane Seymour, Reginald Pole was made a cardinal, this only heightened the tension between the cardinal and the king. She denounced him as a traitor and even expressed her regret 1540 The fact that he remained true to his convictions even when faced with death made a big impression on me. Because of that last quality, he ran afoul of Henry VIII, and for his refusal to take an oath affirming that the king was supreme head of the Church in England, he was beheaded. Bluff King Hal. When she was five years of age her father May God help him!. Henry was beside himself with rage, and it soon became evident that, The Humanist, Erasmus and Thomas More shared a midday meal with the royal children. And 345 years later, in 1886, Lady Salisbury became exactly that. hands on, into the Tower. these boys would never see their 17 birthdays). The Fall of the Poles. Not only was she his relative, she had spent decades in court as a member of his innermost social circles. for a while, but then It depends. another cousin, Isabella of Portugal, who was more of an age to immediately Marys jewellery but Margaret refused to hand them over. After a brief stay in the Tower, she and her husband, William Roper another favourite of Mores took the oath, and the kings men troubled them no more. She was from the enemys side. Royal blood, even the faintest of drops, was considered a threat by Henry (629 mm x 489 mm) Given by the Art Fund, 1931 Primary Collection . Your email address will not be published. She has children now that are Tudor children so it's that feeling of, this is the more important thing, and I think that's why she's a relatable character. Margaret was one of just two women in 16th . The clothing that Katheryn Howard is often given credit for. a sprinter. The Trial of SIR THOMAS MORE: An Account. Notes: The Complete Peerage v.XIIpII, p393. Margaret died on 25th December 1544 and William on 4th January 1578. Because of this she was forced to hand over her son Reginald to the church. Margaret Beaufort (not the mother of Warwick, under But most importantly, Margaret Pole was the granddaughter of Richard Plantagenet. The second account tells of how she managed to escape from the block and that she was hewn down by the executioner as she ran. Margaret traced her descent from Edward III through Lionel of Antwerp, his daughter Anne Mortimer, to Anne's son Richard Plantagent, father of Edward IV and Richard III. Margaret, his sister, in the same way, Princess Royal. Margaret would stay in the Tower for as long as her son Reginald was still a threat. He was granted various offices in Wales including the constableships of Harlech At the time of the Pole boys' birth, all seemed well - their died a very hard death. Henry feared that Joan, wife of John Langton. Maybe someone who knows more about this area can shed light on it for us. Father: Mary's cause and Cardinal Pole. Eight days after the arrest of her son Lord Montagu, Margaret was visited by the Earl of Southampton, Thomas Goodrich and the Bishop of Ely for questioning at Warblington. Cromwell that In Showtimes The Tudors, those assassins were Sir Francis Bryan and Sir Thomas Seymour. Unknown woman, formerly known as Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury. After Reginald read the letter from his younger brother he sent a letter back to his mother, Margaret saying that my hope is in God and that he desired her blessing. household and acted very much in the capacity of a mother. On the 29th December 1886, Pope Leo XIII beatified Margaret, making her Blessed Margaret Pole, a Catholic martyr. 1505 Margaret without adequate means to support herself and her children, We dont know for the date for certain but we know that by the 20th of November 1539 Margaret was a prisoner in the Tower of London. Norfolk were her Godmothers at the font, and the Countess of Salisbury Henry VIII's wrath - the For his brother Geoffrey he said, meddle little and let all things alone. Support me by becoming a Medium member: https://bit.ly/39Cybb8. The daughter of George, the Duke of Clarence, and Isabel Neville, Margaret was a member of the House of York. Reginald's mother Margaret Pole Countess of Salisbury, as well as his brother and young nephew, are also shown in Season Three, though they remain in England. manner of indignity. In his day, More was celebrated throughout Europe as a statesman, author, wit and champion of the Catholic Church. Very interesting post. That would explain her displeasure with Thomas More's methods. letters, sent via a Hugh Holland, to "Sir Thomas? Having been unable to sell in churches for well over a year due to the pandemic, we are now inviting readers to support the Herald by investing in our future. n24) I have never spoken to him about his brother (Reginald), except warning him that the latter had much better remain where he is now, and beg his daily bread in the streets, than attempt returning here in these troubled times, for fear he should be treated as the poor bishop of Rochester, or worse still. she was Mary's first "Lady Mistress" who oversaw and governed Find out why Margaret Pole was executed . Southampton and Ely were surprised when even that did not work, noting: We have dealt with such a one, as men have not dealt withal before us; we may call her rather a strong and constant man, than a woman. (fn. She said she would serve the princess at her own expense he request was denied. 1518. Never a prudent man, the He was descended from St Thomass sister, Elizabeth. A spy within her household, Gervase Shortly after the death of his first wife Thomas married for a second time to a . Henry made him a squire of his bodyguard and a Unluckily, a search of Margaret's home produced a heraldic device entertwining pansies (the symbol of the Poles) with marigolds (one of the Henry VII and Tudor Rule. Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury was laid to rest at St. Peter ad Vincula the same place where many of our Tudor favorites lay. Margaret Pole was executed on the 27th of May 1541. to the Tower and there, for nearly two years, she was "tormented by the Additional More martyrs came in the next century. By 1478 Margaret Plantagenet and her brother Edward were both orphans. 1541, Tower of London, Tower Green, London, England, Buried: St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London. The feast day of Blessed Margaret Pole is 28 May, and she was beatified 1886 by Pope Leo VIII. Albeit for all we could do, though we used her diversely, she would utter and convess little or nothing more than the first day, and that she utterly denieds all that is objected unto her; and that with most stiff and earnest words.. Morris: The Month (Apr, 1889) Camm: Lives of the English Martyrs, I (London, 1904), 502 sqq. Reginald, was to become cardinal and Archbishop of executioner when his first blow failed to kill or incapcitate her. There was a heavy with good cheer). The man was Gervase Tyndall and he was a school master. I think that is a significant difference. Please identify yourself by name or social media handle so we know you're not a 'bot. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. On 25 Sept. following he was one of a company of . George Lord Montague and Sir Geoffrey, and De Marillac: Correspondance Is 2023 the Year Looted Art Returns Home? She certainly didn't bow to any pressure later in her life to give up her son. From the #1 New York Times bestselling author behind the acclaimed Starz series The White Queen comes the story of lady-in-waiting Margaret Pole and her unique view of King Henry VIII's stratospheric rise to power in Tudor England. Henry could get his We may earn commission on some of the items you choose to buy. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved. My Orders to keep him available as a possible spouse for Mary). In response, Henry VIII had basically every Pole . In 1512, at the petition of Margaret, Henry VIII granted her the earldom of Salisbury, making her Countess of Salisbury in her own right. block, though she was aged and not in good health (and it is unlikely that her "little offended save that he [the Cardinal] is of their kin", they to do anything, and the executioner himself looked as if he was on the good The sad fact remains that there is damaging evidence relating to her sons committing treason according to the laws at the time. Arthur) Council in Wales. At the age of 14, Margaret was married to Richard Pole, a loyal subject of the king and relative of Margaret Beaufort. Margaret was asked if she knew that her son Geoffrey and Lord Montagu wished to join their brother and she responded that she prayed God she may be torn in pieces if ever she heard such a thing of her sons. Margaret was appointed to serve Catherine of Aragon after her marriage to Arthur, Prince of Wales, but Catherine's household was dissolved after Arthur's death in April 1502. Sir Geoffrey, they were executed. We are raising $250,000 to safeguard the Herald as a world-leading voice in Catholic journalism and teaching. She's loyal to him. It begins with Maggie Pole, the cousin of Elizabeth of York, the Queen when Catherine arrives. Margaret was orphaned very early in life, and as The Spanish Princess shows, her brother, Edward Plantagenet, was first imprisoned in the Tower of London and later executed in 1499, to eliminate a . king's courses. Stafford). In May Cromwell introduced against her a Bill of Attainder, There is no greater tale of a father and daughter relationship than the story of Sir Thomas More and his Dearest Meg, his eldest daughter Margaret. History Margaret Pole Duke of Clarence Duke of Gloucester edward IV Elizabeth Woodville Henry Tudor Henry VII Margaret Pole Richard III Richard Pole wars of the roses. In January 1539, many of them were executed. Margarets youngest son, Geoffrey had been in contact with him. and his grandfather was Humphrey, Earl of Stafford, descended from I want my head.Sir Thomas More. It appeared to Ayer that Margaret was of the old faith and not the new faith like himself. With George Gordon, Lord Byron, and Sir Walter Scott, he embodied British . After his death, Margaret was left to raise five children in the difficult financial situation she was left in after her husbands death. deriding During all of this Margaret was at Warblington. By that time it was already too late he listed his brother, regardless of any disclaimer and it appears that his was so guilt ridden by it all that John Hussee reported to Lord Lisle that Geoffrey was so in despair that he would have murdered himself and, as it was told me, hurt himself sore. Subscribe to email updates from Tudors Dynasty. Margaret Neville. The House of Lords pronounced him guilty of treason and condemned him Countess of Salisbury was honoured with a prominent position in the Canterbury, and also the indirect cause of his mother's martyrdom. I will never understand how Henry could take his anger out on a frail old lady who was no threat to him and who had acted as a mother figure to his daughter Mary. Fr Harrington was captured, tortured and executed. 24 . When the story of his mother's gruesome death, in all its horrific and Margaret did not go easy. She is celebrated for her filial piety and scholarly accomplishments. Whichever account you believe, this lady had a truly awful end. Whatever the version, all agreed that Margaret, Countess of Salisbury documents and was a witness to the great peace Treaty of London in Eustace Chapuys reported that he tried to suffocate himself with a cushion. that she had given birth to him. died, the youthful Earl of Warwick became de jure heir to the Crown, and verge of fleeing the scene himself. Did Margaret Beaufort love Jasper? A painting in the National Portrait Gallery offers a grey-white face, long, guarded, medieval, remote: 'unknown woman, formerly known as Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury'. But it appears the play was never produced. Henry VIII having only a female child the Edmund, though two of Marquis of Exeter; and the Countess. His brother Henry was arrested and tortured until he betrayed a Catholic priest, Fr William Harrington. also to his meeting with Carlos V of Spain. Henry VIII Books Exploring the Best Books on Englands Most Infamous King, 18 February 1516 The birth of Queen Mary I, daughter of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon. verge of fleeing the scene himself. In: Ghosts and Hauntings. symbols of Mary Tudor). In Southampton's custody (Henry VII 's actions go a long way to cast guilt Merely two weeks after Margaret was questioned, her eldest son, Lord Montague was tried before a jury of his peers at Westminster. remain, and pay for Mary to have a household from her own pockets, extremely rich lady with lands in Hampshire, Wiltshire, the West Country and In the spring of 1539 Margaret was moved from Cowdray to the Tower permitted to reply, had to do with the escape from England of her chaplain and her brother were brought up at Sheen, with the children of the King. Further reading: "Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541" by Hazel Pierce, "Margaret Pole: The Countess in the . 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